Session Start: Tue May 24 00:00:00 2011 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
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[05:00]<+Mulreay> Hit a rather annoying bug in MC... it be driving me nuts
[05:25]<+camerongray> lol - What is it?
[05:26]<+Mulreay> I'm building a track so it's like --------- then I get to a point that I can't place a block unless I skip one forward.. so like this ----- ----- even if I go sideways for a while I still can't place a block forward.. that one space won't take one... not sure if any of that makes sense
[05:27]<+camerongray> Hmm, seems odd
[05:27]<+Mulreay> also annoying
[05:27]<+Mulreay> it just means I have no way of carrying on with the track
[05:33]<+camerongray> Ahh
[05:34]<+camerongray> You really should come on the server :P
[05:34]<+Mulreay> can't here, using mobile internet
[05:34]<+camerongray> Ahh
[05:35]<+Mulreay> when I get my new build at home, I'll have an uber fast computer with a monster connection... all good
[05:35]<+Mulreay> Then I'll come on the server, well actually I'll move my SSP over to there
[05:36]<+camerongray> Cool
[05:36]<+camerongray> The main map is so fast paced
[05:36]<+camerongray> Every time I go on, there is something new
[05:36]<+Mulreay> cool
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[06:58]<+camerongray> lol - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43140373/?gt1=43001
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[07:38]<+Mulreay> Just finished Portal..whoo hooo
[07:40]<+Mulreay> so the cake is not a lie
[07:43]<+camerongray> lol
[08:13]<+Mulreay> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTxrGZGfNJs&feature=channel_video_title
[08:13]<+Mulreay> Minecraft 6 trailer
[08:13]<+Mulreay> 1.6*
[08:15]<+camerongray> sweet
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[08:19]<+camerongray> btw - Tux said not to update to 1.6 until the server gets updated
[08:23]<+Mulreay> erm ok
[08:24]<+camerongray> Just because if you update your client, you won't be able to get on the server
[08:39]<+Mulreay> seems Allan is getting another grilling on CH
[08:47]<+camerongray> lol
[08:47]<+camerongray> It's not just me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yikoxvn6p4g
[08:47]<+camerongray> :P
[08:54]<+Mulreay> lol
[08:57]<+Mulreay> need to go back to the shop soon, gave myself the afternoon off
[09:13]<+camerongray> lol - Have fun :D
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[09:26]<+camerongray> hmm - To buy a projector with a lamp with 1000 hours left or one with 2000 hours but with a bluish picture
[09:27]<+camerongray> I just wish they had pictures from each one
[09:41]<+camerongray> Might get this one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PLUS-MODEL-U5-111-DLP-DATA-PROJECTOR-REMOTE-CABLES-/190537186874?pt=UK_AudiVideoElectronics_Video_Electronics&hash=item2c5ce6be3a#ht_1102wt_1141
[10:00]<Tux2> camerongray, how blue? because your eyes compensate for a small amount of tinge...
[10:00]<+camerongray> Doesn't say
[10:00]<Tux2> Ah...
[10:00]<+camerongray> I think the one I posted above looks better
[10:00]<+camerongray> <400 hours lamp
[10:01]<Tux2> looks good... I just don't know what things go for in the uk
[10:02]<+camerongray> That is very cheap
[10:02]<+camerongray> !g 50gbp in usd
[10:03]<+camerongray> About ?80
[10:03]<Tux2> lol, yeah, get it.
[10:04]<Tux2> I just know that in some countries some things go for more, other things go for less...
[10:08]<+camerongray> Ahh
[10:09]<Tux2> lol, it's amazing, people keep trying to use plugins that are meant for newer versions of craftbukkit without updating...
[10:10]<Tux2> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/fun-mech-spongerestore-v0-9-2-bring-back-the-functionality-of-sponges-766-803.18204/page-2#post-322842
[10:29]<+camerongray> lol
[10:36]<@BC_Programming> haha
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[10:59]<@jacky> back later
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Session Start: Tue May 24 11:40:09 2011 Session Ident: #glitchpc [11:40] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[11:40] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[11:47]<Tux2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMOaQ8-rIaE
[11:52]<+Craig> So Mr. Developer, are you going to add snow?
[11:52]<@BC_Programming> tux2L nice
[11:52]<@BC_Programming> Craig: watch the whole vid :P
[11:52]<+Craig> Yeah I already knew what he asked, I was just sayin
[11:53]<Tux2> lol
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[11:54]<@BC_Programming> Craig: yeah but your question and his question was answered at the end of the vid
[11:54]<Tux2> did I miss anything?
[11:54]<@BC_Programming> which is that there is only one kind of weather- rain
[11:54]<@BC_Programming> Tux2: nope
[11:54]<Tux2> ah, cool.
[11:55]<@BC_Programming> Craig: haven't seen you active much, you busy these days?
[11:55]<+Craig> Just not been home much,
[11:55]<Tux2> I wish I could do snow/rain independently, but unfourtunately it's biome dependent
[11:55]<+Craig> been hanging out with my girlfriend, and working a lot,
[11:56]<@BC_Programming> Craig: cool, :D
[11:56]<@BC_Programming> Tux2: yeah too bad you couldn't add custom weather types like hail or something
[11:56]<@BC_Programming> snowballs being fired from the sky, heh
[11:57]<+Craig> It would be cool if it could be raining in area's under clouds only,
[11:57]<Tux2> lol!
[11:57]<Tux2> Craig, for that there's another plugin called weather regions.
[11:57]<+Craig> Nice
[11:57]<Tux2> where there are storm systems that drift across the world.
[11:58]<Tux2> It's hard to do though, and tied to a certain craftbukkit release.
[11:59]<+camerongray> Woo - Craig is here
[11:59]<+camerongray> And I have to go and get food :P
[11:59]<@BC_Programming> haha
[12:00]<Tux2> lol!
[12:07]<Tux2> now one thing I was wondering is why he didn't want holes blown in his world. ;)
[12:07]<+Craig> :P
[12:08]<Tux2> Just kidding. I have that option disabled as well on my server.
[12:09]<@BC_Programming> makes me sad kinda, that instead of writing however bajillion lines of code BASeBlock has and having only one person even try the game (me) I could have just written a useful bukkit plugin and become famous :P
[12:10]<@BC_Programming> it looks like bukkit plugins aren't as much of a pain to make as client-side mods
[12:11]<Tux2> lol, you've got that right. ;)
[12:11]<@BC_Programming> tux2: yeah I read a bit about it and it seems like you just plop a jar into a certain folder, much better then the complete nonsense of decompiling and deobfuscating stuff for client-side mods
[12:12]<@BC_Programming> I guess we have the bukkit developers to thank for that little feature :D
[12:12]<Tux2> lol, yup, although there is modloader for client side mods.
[12:13]<Tux2> I'm thinking of trying to port claygen to a client side mod, just to see how that stuff works.
[12:14]<Tux2> The explosion feature in the plugin though took a little bit of work, as I actually had to dig into the craftbukkit plugin itself and call the explosion method manually.
[12:14]<@BC_Programming> tux2: the modloader isn't as helpful as you'd expect, actually
[12:15]<@BC_Programming> it's certainly better than nothing, though
[12:15]<Tux2> lol, you've tried?
[12:15]<@BC_Programming> well not really, but from reading other posts and examining the modloader javadocs
[12:16]<@BC_Programming> it's mostly the obfuscation that get's in the way for client-side mods
[12:23]<Tux2> ah...
[12:23]<@BC_Programming> I made a coalpig
[12:24]<@BC_Programming> then minecraft updated and I gave up on MC client-side mods...
[12:24]<Tux2> lol, you told me about that...
[12:28]<+Mulreay> OK that's another day done
[12:29]<@BC_Programming> oh right tux2 did you hear about what happened with CSMRhodes here in IRC? that was awesome
[12:29]<Tux2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-xxR8sFuuo
[12:29]<Tux2> what happened BC?
[12:29]<@BC_Programming> here I'll find the log
[12:31]<@BC_Programming> http://www.bc-programming.com/irclogs/HTML/glitchpc.log.%5B2011.05.22%5D.html
[12:32]<@BC_Programming> 8:47 in the log when he said "he should rewrite the bible to make sense" or something...
[12:33]<@BC_Programming> apparently Tux you are "his nerd" or something
[12:40]<Tux2> lol, yeah, he's said that several times when I have given him basic advice..
[12:40]<Tux2> http://tux2mc.tk/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=15
[12:40]<@BC_Programming> he was going to suggest an ignore plugin to you to ignore people he didn't like, so I took his advice to heart
[12:41]<Tux2> lol...
[12:41]<@BC_Programming> "I was hoping to be an admin on the server" HAHAHA
[12:41]<Tux2> he's too "stand offish"
[12:42]<@BC_Programming> yeah that's a good way of putting it
[12:42]<Tux2> lol, yeah, admin? never. I'd log back in to see almost everyone banned...
[12:42]<@BC_Programming> "he said my sky city was dumb so I banned him"
[12:42]<Tux2> tee hee...
[12:43]<@BC_Programming> "also did you see my sky city"
[12:43]<@BC_Programming> heh
[12:43]<Tux2> lol...
[12:43]<Tux2> <Driver4r> wow 22$$$
[12:43]<Tux2> <Driver4r> too big
[12:43]<Tux2> <Tux2> how much do you have?
[12:43]<Tux2> <Driver4r> i thought bata was supposed to be cheaper
[12:43]<Tux2> <Tux2> Um, it's going to be $35 when it is done.
[12:43]<@BC_Programming> haha
[12:44]<Tux2> I let him on through the weekend by doing some special things to the server... but it's not like I'm going to keep it like that...
[12:45]<@BC_Programming> ooooh
[12:45]<Tux2> Everyone was still being authenticated, except for him.
[12:45]<@BC_Programming> I need to find his house
[12:45]<@BC_Programming> put spooky signs
[12:45]<Tux2> lol
[12:45]<@BC_Programming> "buy the game pirate"
[12:45]<@BC_Programming> "you are devil spawn, buy the game"
[12:45]<Tux2> pfft...
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> and than say it's a feature in the game
[12:46]<Tux2> I could have said that about you before you bought the game. ;)
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> "oh that was herobrine, he goes around and tells people who aren't authenticated to buy the game, don't worry about it"
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> Tux2: yeah but I never played multiplayer
[12:46]<Tux2> lol
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> I just wonder if I can freak him out
[12:47]<Tux2> tee hee...
[12:47]<@BC_Programming> "OMG there are spooky signs telling me to buy the game"
[12:47]<Tux2> I run an offline server for him... so that might not work...
[12:47]<Tux2> Funless.... ;)
[12:47]<Tux2> home.jrtechsupport.com:22565 <- offline Mc server
[12:47]<Tux2> ;)
[12:52]<Tux2> so you can place a whole bunch of signs in his server as well. ;)
[12:52]<@BC_Programming> haha
[12:52]<@BC_Programming> my house in the town on the server has sort of evolved into a castle
[12:53]<@BC_Programming> I have so much lapis I can use it as a building material, lol
[13:01]<Tux2> lol!
[13:01]<Tux2> Did you see the new thunder tower?
[13:01]<@BC_Programming> I don't think so
[13:02]<+Mulreay> so many fantastical names being banded around... I must get on this server when I'm back in Manchester
[13:03]<sonicrules1234> You know, notch has a nice rest API for seeing if somebody bought minecraft
[13:03]<@BC_Programming> haspaid.jsp as well
[13:04]<sonicrules1234> Yeah, that's what I'm talking about
[13:05]<sonicrules1234> haspaid.jsp?user=USERNAMEGOESHERE
[13:05]<sonicrules1234> It'll return true or false
[13:05]<sonicrules1234> I would say that would be json
[13:05]<sonicrules1234> The response that is
[13:06]<@BC_Programming> no
[13:06]<@BC_Programming> the response is true or false...
[13:08]<sonicrules1234> With the lowercase t and f, its valid json :P
[13:10]<+Mulreay> Anyone want to buy a 360gb HDD with a bad sector?
[13:11]<@BC_Programming> sonicrules1234: No, I don't think it is
[13:12]<sonicrules1234> >>> import json
[13:12]<sonicrules1234> >>> json.loads("true")
[13:12]<sonicrules1234> True
[13:13]<sonicrules1234> The json module says it is
[13:13]<@BC_Programming> then the python lib is broken, not valid json according to http://www.json.org/
[13:13]<@BC_Programming> or, more likely, it might be implying one part of the name value pair, as well as the object
[13:14]<sonicrules1234> It's implying an array
[13:16]<sonicrules1234> Guess you're right
[13:17]<sonicrules1234> Did you see the changelog for 1.6? Its huge :D
[13:18]<sonicrules1234> But he still hasn't fixed the array of bugs with beds so far
[13:19]<@BC_Programming> sonic: which bugs? I mean there are a few
[13:19]<@BC_Programming> also, I just tested "true" with .NET, and it <kind> of works, but I have to tell it that I am loading a bool
[13:20]<+Mulreay> Has MC been updated yet?
[13:21]<@BC_Programming> Mulreay: I don't think so, supposedly later this week there will be the 1.6 update
[13:21]<+Mulreay> I read the blog, wondered if it had happened. thx
[13:22]<sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: Yes, there is more than one bug with beds, hence why I said "array of bugs" :P
[13:23]<@BC_Programming> sonic: yeah but I don't remember the major ones
[13:23]<@BC_Programming> he fixed one bug with beds in relation to the nether at least
[13:26]<Tux2> lol, what bug was that?
[13:26]<@BC_Programming> that they didn't work
[13:26]<Tux2> ah...
[13:26]<@BC_Programming> it just said "you can't sleep at night"
[13:27]<@BC_Programming> which sort of made some sense I guess
[13:27]<@BC_Programming> after all the nether is dark
[13:27]<@BC_Programming> heh
[13:27]<Tux2> ugh, how many people don't read the join message on the server....
[13:27]<@BC_Programming> lots
[13:28]<Tux2> lol, yeah apparently....
[13:28]<@BC_Programming> what happened? I saw the sponges thing, DB got that implemented pretty quick
[13:28]<@BC_Programming> I think I'm going to make some sponge on my next visit with all my extra string
[13:29]<Tux2> Um, a player was all excited about 1.6 coming out, and I told him not to update... he asked why...
[13:30]<@BC_Programming> hahaha
[13:30]<Tux2> There, big bold letters on join, don't upgrade...
[13:30]<@BC_Programming> well arguably one could update if they back up the jar file
[13:32]<Tux2> exactly
[13:32]<Tux2> That's what I do.
[13:32]<Tux2> I remember the last update...
[13:32]<Tux2> I had like 5 players that upgraded and wondered why they couldn't connect to the server...
[13:33]<@BC_Programming> haha
[13:33]<+Mulreay> heh
[13:33]<sonicrules1234> Tux2: So no upgrading until bukkit supports 1.6?
[13:34]<@BC_Programming> I have a few mods installed (SPC,nethercraft, and some others) but I hardly ever play single player now so they sit unused most of the time, aside from the map mod
[13:34]<Tux2> correct sonicrules1234
[13:34]<@BC_Programming> which with 1.6 will be kind of obsolete
[13:34]<Tux2> lol, actually, probably not...
[13:34]<Tux2> I'm still keeping zan's minimap as the map only updates when you hold it...
[13:34]<Tux2> and you have to hold it to use it...
[13:34]<@BC_Programming> tux2: well at the very least it would be unfair... although it's already sort of unfair anyway
[13:35]<@BC_Programming> and of course waypoints which are probably the main reason I have it
[13:35]<@BC_Programming> ok so maybe it won't be obsolete at all
[13:35]<Tux2> lol, zan's minimap is an approved mod on the server... almost everyone uses it.
[13:36]<Tux2> There, just made it so that they can't miss the don't update text...
[13:36]<@BC_Programming> they'll still miss it I'm sure
[13:36]<Tux2> lol! It pops up every 5 minutes...
[13:36]<Tux2> if they miss it, then I'm sorry...
[13:36]<@BC_Programming> heh
[13:37]<@BC_Programming> they'll find a way I'm sure
[13:37]<@BC_Programming> "I didn't see it I was AFK!"
[13:37]<Tux2> it's on join too... ;)
[13:38]<@BC_Programming> tux2: this might explain the type of thing you are up against:
[13:38]<@BC_Programming> http://notalwaysright.com/this-is-what-hell-is-like/152
[13:39]<Tux2> ha ha ha!
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> "Now click OK"... "I clicked cancel"
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> classic
[13:40]<+Mulreay> haha awesome
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> there is another one
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> "ok use the right mouse button"
[13:41]<@BC_Programming> "right... that's the opposite of left, isn't it?"
[13:41]<+Mulreay> lol
[13:41]<+Mulreay> some people just need to be taken out into the field with a shotgun and have there misery ended
[13:42]<Tux2> stupid DVD copy protection...
[13:42]<+Mulreay> damn them copyright people
[13:43]<@BC_Programming> it's weird though, you can find somebody who is otherwise perfectly reasonable and smart, put them in front of a computer, and suddenly they don't know what a triangle is or left from right or what "press" means.
[13:43]<+Mulreay> I think people get nervous
[13:43]<@BC_Programming> well there is good reason to
[13:43]<@BC_Programming> after all if you press the wrong button
[13:44]<@BC_Programming> boom
[13:44]<@BC_Programming> it's all over
[13:44]<@BC_Programming> and then in the news
[13:44]<@BC_Programming> "man is killed when trying to ignore clippy"
[13:44]<+camerongray> Back
[13:44]<@BC_Programming> and then in a smaller headline "clippy pleads guilty to manslaughter"
[13:45]<+camerongray> Yeh, It annoys me when you tell someone to "Press button X" and they don't understand
[13:45]<Tux2> ugh, it's actually the DVD...
[13:45]<+camerongray> You're right, people do seem to get intimidated by computers
[13:46]<+camerongray> Took 3 teachers at school to work out how to use the DVD plater
[13:46]<+camerongray> player*
[13:46]<@BC_Programming> and we've come full circle to DVDs
[13:46]<+camerongray> lol
[13:46]<@BC_Programming> now that's good dovetailing
[13:46]<+camerongray> Tux2: You know the path to the mansion
[13:47]<+camerongray> Are there meant to be bits of sandstone missing?
[13:48]<+Mulreay> There was a course near where I live for computer beginners. I told my neighbour to use it as she got a new laptop and new only how to get on facebook. It cost about ?20 for the course. The guy sat each person down in front of a PC and said 'OK it's time to get rid of the fear you will break something, just use the keyboard and mouse and press whatever you like. I guarentee you won't break
[13:48]<+Mulreay> anything.' My friend and I have NO idea how but when she closed the computer down, the guy said just start it up again its ok.. she managed to start a re-install of windows. She was bricking it so never said anything until about half way through..
[13:48]<+camerongray> Also, can I remove the bridges that were used to transfer the grass - The garden is covered now
[13:48]<Tux2> um, nope...
[13:48]<+camerongray> Ahh - I can remove them?
[13:49]<+camerongray> lol
[13:49]<Tux2> cool, yeah, you can.
[13:49]<+camerongray> cool
[13:49]<+camerongray> grass should drop seeds
[13:49]<+Mulreay> I've repaired that laptop a few times since
[13:49]<+camerongray> lol
[13:50]<+camerongray> I've got a teamviewer link with my Granny's PC
[13:50]<+Mulreay> heh cool, I have one with my parents laptop
[13:50]<@BC_Programming> cam: grass does drop seeds... with a hoe...
[13:50]<+camerongray> Yeh - but grass seeds
[13:50]<+Mulreay> no need for that language
[13:51]<+camerongray> lol
[13:51]<+camerongray> I wish my mum would get a new laptop
[13:51]<+Mulreay> Not sure how a lady of the night can make seeds
[13:52]<+Mulreay> I wish my parents would give me there laptop
[13:53]<+camerongray> lol
[13:53]<+camerongray> This is what mine have: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_VAIO_FS_series
[13:53]<+camerongray> Pentium M
[13:54]<+Mulreay> yeah bit yesterday that
[13:54]<+camerongray> lol
[13:54]<+camerongray> Was really out of date when we got it
[13:55]<+camerongray> I kept saying to buy an HP - Had a Turion (64bit) and 1gb RAM but she bought the Sony
[13:55]<@BC_Programming> yeah people ask me for my opinion between a few machines
[13:55]<@BC_Programming> then I do research and stuff and see which one is probably better value or whatever
[13:55]<@BC_Programming> then they almost always choose something else
[13:55]<+Mulreay> heh
[13:56]<@BC_Programming> so now when they ask me I just roll a dice, seriously
[13:56]<@BC_Programming> "Which of these is better?"
[13:56]<+Mulreay> I just blindly took Camerons and Calums advice... there could be a jape or two at my expence
[13:56]<@BC_Programming> "hold on, I'll get my coin... *flips a coin*"
[13:56]<+Mulreay> heh
[13:56]<+camerongray> People don't seem to see a computer as an expensive machine any more
[13:56]<@BC_Programming> cam: they aren't anymore
[13:57]<+camerongray> Some of the ones I see are in unbelievable condition
[13:57]<@BC_Programming> expensive was the original PC when they were thousands, or even tens of thousands of dollars
[13:57]<+Mulreay> yeah
[13:57]<@BC_Programming> now they cost about the same as a refrigerator
[13:57]<@BC_Programming> a bad refrigerator in some cases
[13:57]<+camerongray> Missing keys, broken screens, keyboards are crunchy, overheating with dust, laptops that have failed after being left on a bed
[13:57]<+Mulreay> wow, how good is your fridge?
[13:57]<+camerongray> lol
[13:58]<@BC_Programming> graham: I dunno I only got it so I could make a fort with the box
[13:59]<@BC_Programming> inevitably when I do the coin flip thing they'll ask why I did that, to which I say "well, I don't see the point in doing a good half hour of research on the hardware of the two machines to find which one is probably a better choice when you are just going to go with the one you think looks better anyway"
[13:59]<+camerongray> We've got videos of me when I was young - Piles of expensive toys next to me sitting in a box
[13:59]<+camerongray> Yeh, people always seem to go on looks
[13:59]<@BC_Programming> "that one is better? but the other one is BRUSHED CHROME!"
[13:59]<@BC_Programming> or "but this one is SHINY"
[14:00]<@BC_Programming> yes, and that might be a useful attribute if you are a BIRD and like shiny things
[14:00]<@BC_Programming> bird as in the flying animal not the british slang
[14:00]<+camerongray> People at school said my ThinkPad is "An old piece of junk" justifying that "It's thick and black"
[14:01]<@BC_Programming> and you said "so are you"
[14:01]<@BC_Programming> and ran away
[14:01]<+camerongray> lol
[14:01]<+camerongray> I'm like It's an i5 with 4gb RAM
[14:02]<+camerongray> Then they demonstrate that theirs is better because it's thin - Usually Compaq/Packard Bell/Acer with a 2gb RAM and a Sempron/Celeron or if they are really rich a Pentium Dual Core
[14:03]<@BC_Programming> wow my laptop is like 3 years old and it has a Pentium Dual Core
[14:03]<+camerongray> But they got theirs like 2 days ago :P
[14:03]<@BC_Programming> size doesn't matter... unless you need a wheelbarrow, but we're talking about computers
[14:03]<+camerongray> Get them, drop them, get new one
[14:04]<Tux2> lol....
[14:04]<+camerongray> Or get one with vista, 7 comes out, buy new one, throw old one out
[14:04]<@BC_Programming> wtf
[14:04]<+camerongray> I know
[14:04]<Tux2> I get one, throw windows off and put linux on it...
[14:04]<Tux2> Oh, got the DVD to rip. :D
[14:04]<+camerongray> lol - same
[14:04]<@BC_Programming> I just reinstall windows
[14:04]<+camerongray> But MC doesn't run on linux on my desktop
[14:05]<@BC_Programming> easier then sorting through all the crapware that comes with a new laptop/desktop machine
[14:05]<+camerongray> They drop them all the time
[14:05]<@BC_Programming> I don't think I've ever dropped my laptop
[14:05]<@BC_Programming> I almost sat on it once
[14:05]<+camerongray> lol
[14:05]<+Mulreay> When you build your own though that's different, then vanity rears it's ugly head. You want your choices to be housed in a Rembrandt not a childs scribble...... to much use of simile?
[14:06]<@BC_Programming> well not really Mulreay, my case is pretty unassuming
[14:06]<@BC_Programming> no fancy nonsense
[14:06]<@BC_Programming> like those silly side windows
[14:06]<+camerongray> We go into class - I open my laptop bag, carefully take it out and place it on desk - They open their school bag, pull it out covered in scratches from all the stuff sitting on it and drop it on desk
[14:07]<@BC_Programming> and then they try to start it and wonder why the hard drive crashed
[14:07]<+Mulreay> heh
[14:07]<+camerongray> Yep - I replace drives too
[14:07]<@BC_Programming> "OH NO! it got covered in the slurpee I had in my bag"
[14:07]<@BC_Programming> "oh well I'll just dry it off and it'll work fine"
[14:07]<+camerongray> That's happened too
[14:07]<@BC_Programming> haha
[14:08]<@BC_Programming> I try to avoid taking my laptop <anywhere> makes me nervous
[14:08]<+camerongray> Well it was more "CAMERON! - I've poured coffee on my laptop and it won't turn on - I've been trying for an hour"
[14:08]<@BC_Programming> in school it wasn't so much of a problem because the laptop I had was an old Pentium 133, the one I 'reviewed" in a video, heh
[14:08]<+camerongray> Yes - Turning on a wet laptop
[14:09]<+camerongray> When computing ends - To turn PCs off, people flick the switch on the socket off then on
[14:09]<@BC_Programming> I got tired of people asking computer stuff
[14:09]<@BC_Programming> so I just make up stuff
[14:09]<@BC_Programming> like when people would ask "is vista really slower than XP"
[14:09]<+camerongray> I regularly have to fix computers in school
[14:09]<+Mulreay> 'Yeah your fluffer valve is shot mate, gonna need to reboot from silly'.
[14:10]<+camerongray> lol
[14:10]<@BC_Programming> I'd saw "well, for asynchronous file operations, sometimes it can be perceived as slower, but as long as all IO can be kept relatively synchronous with the IO receiver port it should run fine"
[14:10]<+camerongray> The computing department at my school is so bad it's funny
[14:10]<@BC_Programming> or is it
[14:10]<@BC_Programming> so funny it's bad?
[14:10]<+camerongray> One of the teachers spends the whole time turing every computer off to "Save the polar bears"
[14:10]<@BC_Programming> from what
[14:10]<+camerongray> lol
[14:11]<@BC_Programming> I would have said something like
[14:11]<@BC_Programming> "OMG I had no idea they could fit inside"
[14:11]<+camerongray> I usually reply with "I leave my PC on all the time"
[14:12]<@BC_Programming> and then they call you a monster
[14:12]<@BC_Programming> and storm out and drive home in their SUV
[14:13]<+camerongray> And the other says - "I'm passing 2 graphics cards round the class so you can see what they look like, If you put one of these in, you can play games a lot better" - When It comes to me I see an old ISA video card of some sort and a PCI firewire card"
[14:13]<@BC_Programming> roflmao
[14:13]<@BC_Programming> awesome
[14:13]<+Mulreay> lol
[14:14]<@BC_Programming> I guess I ought to be grateful that the IT staff at my school were actually quite competent and knew what they were doing
[14:14]<+Mulreay> you should take the class cameron
[14:14]<@BC_Programming> and/or teaching
[14:14]<+camerongray> I do teach the teacher
[14:14]<@BC_Programming> it was the substitutes that were hilarious
[14:14]<@BC_Programming> I swear I ended up teaching an entire week of a class because the teacher had no idea about the material
[14:14]<@BC_Programming> he was very fascinated with recursion and we spent about 5 times longer on that then we ought to have
[14:15]<@BC_Programming> we spent like an entire 2 weeks on fibonacci numbers, which should have been a single period
[14:15]<+camerongray> My teacher deletes any code in my program that she doesn't understand
[14:15]<@BC_Programming> wow
[14:15]<+camerongray> As in - I don't know what that line does - Delete
[14:15]<+camerongray> What is that word for - Delete
[14:15]<+camerongray> Then blames we when it doesn't work
[14:15]<@BC_Programming> and then she wonders why it doesn't work
[14:15]<@BC_Programming> haha
[14:16]<+Mulreay> lol
[14:16]<@BC_Programming> wow I must say I truly pity your experience
[14:16]<Tux2> lol camerongray
[14:16]<+camerongray> I had to teach her elseif - She was doing if...end if...end if...end
[14:16]<Tux2> UGH!!!
[14:16]<@BC_Programming> wow
[14:16]<+Mulreay> I would punch someone for just deleting my code... all be it not that much code... OK if they hit my dog
[14:16]<@BC_Programming> Select Case FTW
[14:17]<+camerongray> Doggies! :P
[14:17]<+camerongray> But why would you have a dog in school :P
[14:17]<+camerongray> That would be awesome
[14:17]<@BC_Programming> a Seeing eye mole
[14:17]<@BC_Programming> "hey what's with the mole"
[14:17]<+Mulreay> seeing eye dog... oh I'm blind by the way
[14:17]<@BC_Programming> "he's my seeing eye mole"
[14:17]<@BC_Programming> "but... moles are practically blind"
[14:17]<+camerongray> lol
[14:18]<@BC_Programming> "he's my pet mole, I call him Monty. Monty Mole
[14:18]<+Mulreay> I think moles just want you to think that and really there keeping an eye on everything that goes on
[14:18]<@BC_Programming> if you get the reference +1 for you
[14:19]<+Mulreay> 0 for me
[14:20]<@BC_Programming> Super mario World
[14:21]<+camerongray> Ahh
[14:21]<+Mulreay> .5 for me
[14:23]<+Mulreay> haha had a sneaky spammer, not banning yet as I want to see how far they go with it... I deleted there sig, as thats in the rules
[14:24]<@BC_Programming> that reminds me I ought to check my forum and cull the spammers every once in a while
[14:24]<@BC_Programming> but then I'd have like 5 members
[14:24]<+Mulreay> lol
[14:26]<@BC_Programming> THAT was a pain. Finally fixed an problem in BaseBlock editor, arrow keys are SUPPOSED to move selected blocks but didn't do anything and just moved the selection in that propertygrid thing on the right
[14:26]<@BC_Programming> the fix was painful
[14:26]<@BC_Programming> spin off an entire thread just to monitor keypresses, because for some reason the actual event that is supposed to get keypresses never get's them
[14:26]<@BC_Programming> but it works now so that is disaster averted I suppose
[14:28]<Tux2> nice!
[14:28]<+Mulreay> heh, just thought of another weird idea for BaseBlock.... suddenly you become the block (1) and the paddle starts firing loads of balls at you and you have to try and avoid them... may be timed
[14:28]<@BC_Programming> I like that as well
[14:28]<Tux2> lol, 3d view?
[14:28]<@BC_Programming> Tux2: oh gawd no
[14:28]<Tux2> tee hee. ;)
[14:28]<+Mulreay> lol
[14:29]<@BC_Programming> I've forgotten <everything> about 3-D programming that I did before with my 3-D graphing app
[14:29]<Tux2> lol, I was just teasing... I don't do 3d as well...
[14:29]<@BC_Programming> at the time I was considering creating either a 3-D version of Poing or a 3-D version of walls (snake/tron)
[14:29]<@BC_Programming> a 3-D snake or tron game would be epic
[14:29]<+Mulreay> yeah big time
[14:30]<+camerongray> yeh
[14:30]<@BC_Programming> oh well there is this
[14:30]<@BC_Programming> http://www.armagetronad.net/
[14:31]<@BC_Programming> even has ready made Ubuntu packages which is pretty cool
[14:31]<+Mulreay> Did anyone read my Wi-Fi artical? If not allow me to bring it to your attention :p
[14:31]<+Mulreay> http://spaceandscience.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=845:could-i-get-wi-fi-on-mars&catid=42:sciencearticles&Itemid=81
[14:31]<@BC_Programming> heh
[14:32]<+camerongray> Cool
[14:32]<+Mulreay> yeah I thought so
[14:34]<Tux2> lol
[14:36]<+Mulreay> Prity cool now, within about 8hrs of uploading a new article it gets about 30 hits, not WOW but it'sa start
[14:37]<+Mulreay> I definately have a following of some kinfd
[14:37]<+Mulreay> kind*
[14:44]<+Mulreay> can anyone recommend a good headset with mic?
[14:44]<@BC_Programming> I can't
[14:44]<@BC_Programming> don't use a headset
[14:45]<Tux2> Mulreay, I can
[14:45]<+Mulreay> k
[14:47]<Tux2> I love the logitechs: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0347198
[14:54]<Tux2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahQyXdZ3ZFI
[14:55]<@BC_Programming> wow
[14:55]<@BC_Programming> he's like your fan or smth :D
[14:59]<Tux2> lol, no, that's another person's plugin
[14:59]<@BC_Programming> oooh
[14:59]<@BC_Programming> oh right, DB?
[14:59]<Tux2> lol, it's Devil_boy512's plugin
[14:59]<Tux2> yup
[15:00]<Tux2> he wanted to create a plugin and found sponges.
[15:00]<@BC_Programming> cool
[15:19]<+camerongray> Oh, DB made it
[15:22]<@BC_Programming> lol I didn't even know about the bookshelves thing
[15:23]<Tux2> http://chrome.angrybirds.com/
[15:23]<Tux2> lol!
[15:23]<@BC_Programming> I just saw one in the middle of the city and was like that's weird
[15:23]<@BC_Programming> right clicked it and got a bunch of info
[15:24]<Tux2> tee hee
[15:24]<+camerongray> Sweet - He did your's too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMOaQ8-rIaE
[15:26]<Tux2> Yup. :D
[15:28]<+camerongray> And ClayGen
[15:28]<@BC_Programming> my mouse batteries always die while playing minecraft it seems
[15:29]<+camerongray> I gave up on my wireless mouce
[15:29]<+camerongray> mouse*
[15:30]<@BC_Programming> alright I'm doing the unthinkable
[15:30]<@BC_Programming> I'm mixing brands
[15:31]<@BC_Programming> yay mouse ability restored
[15:32]<+camerongray> I like when BC jumps in the lava on your video of Claygen
[15:33]<@BC_Programming> I was trying to spice it up
[15:33]<+camerongray> lol
[15:35]<@BC_Programming> sponges work very well too
[15:36]<+camerongray> Tux2: Can you install this mod please? http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/inactive-mech-flow-control-v0-0-4-control-water-and-lava-with-redstone-617.4589/
[15:36]<+camerongray> plugin*
[15:37]<Tux2> lol
[15:38]<Tux2> camerongray, http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/mech-flow-control-v0-15-control-water-and-lava-with-redstone-798.16137/
[15:38]<@BC_Programming> these sponges are awesome, I have to remember to tell DB next time he's on
[15:39]<+camerongray> Ahh - We have that?
[15:39]<Tux2> :) What are you doing with them BC?
[15:39]<Tux2> Not yet... I'll get it installed if BC_Programming likes it.
[15:39]<@BC_Programming> making an underwater house out in the ocean
[15:39]<+camerongray> Cool
[15:39]<@BC_Programming> oooh I'm important
[15:39]<@BC_Programming> heh
[15:40]<@BC_Programming> looks pretty cool to me
[15:40]<Tux2> lol, installing then. ;)
[15:43]<Tux2> hmm... link doesn't work... hold on...
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[15:51]<@BC_Programming> wow the weather is a tad strange in craigworld
[15:51]<@BC_Programming> lots of spotty snow bits
[16:01]<Tux2> Yeah... it takes weather from the same seed as the main world...
[16:08]<Tux2> lol, just got flow control from the reviewer. :D
[16:15]<@BC_Programming> ha best part is sponges are reusable
[16:23]<Tux2> :D
[16:24]<Tux2> We should have an option to have them not re-usable. ;)
[16:24]<@BC_Programming> well what I mean is you use a sponge and then build a little "house" in that area, then you can take the sponge and use it to expand it
[16:25]<Tux2> lol, yup
[16:26]<Tux2> lol, I'm using a mac as a mousepad...
[16:26]<@BC_Programming> so they aren't totally useless
[16:26]<@BC_Programming> :P
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[19:25]<@BC_Programming> heehee... the space invaders bonus thing is going to use SMW bonus music... complete with the ending fanfare on level complete
[19:46]<Tux2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWhcdcKV7Tk
[19:47]<@BC_Programming> he keeping busy they are
[19:47]<@BC_Programming> heh*
[19:47]<Tux2> lol, yeah...
[19:47]<Tux2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTxrGZGfNJs
[19:48]<@BC_Programming> LOL
[20:15]<Tux2> Well, sponges now prevent fire...
[20:15]<Tux2> in the same radius as the water sopping
[20:16]<@BC_Programming> neat